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		<title>By: B.Dewhirst</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2008/07/07/a-different-kind-of-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-15458</link>
		<dc:creator>B.Dewhirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My point wasn&#039;t that there was a single example, but rather that... they all happen to live in Europe.

I think there are more than you think, in other words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My point wasn&#8217;t that there was a single example, but rather that&#8230; they all happen to live in Europe.</p>
<p>I think there are more than you think, in other words.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Marcinko</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2008/07/07/a-different-kind-of-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-15409</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Marcinko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...traditional, socially conscious science fiction ought to teach the reader something; it ought to make them walk away with some new insight not only into the mind of the writer but also into the way in which the world around them operates.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don&#039;t disagree, but you seem to be talking about a very traditional kind of sf, the post-Campbell &lt;i&gt;Galaxy&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;F&amp;SF&lt;/i&gt; kind of story like &lt;i&gt;The Space Merchants&lt;/i&gt;, or &lt;i&gt;334&lt;/i&gt; by the late (alas) Thomas M. Disch.  You could almost sell those as mainstream novels today.  Maybe we should, though they usually don&#039;t get credit for being sf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;traditional, socially conscious science fiction ought to teach the reader something; it ought to make them walk away with some new insight not only into the mind of the writer but also into the way in which the world around them operates.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t disagree, but you seem to be talking about a very traditional kind of sf, the post-Campbell <i>Galaxy</i> or <i>F&amp;SF</i> kind of story like <i>The Space Merchants</i>, or <i>334</i> by the late (alas) Thomas M. Disch.  You could almost sell those as mainstream novels today.  Maybe we should, though they usually don&#8217;t get credit for being sf.</p>
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		<title>By: JB Dryden</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB Dryden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To B Dewhirst: I have heard of him, but I&#039;m not sure what you&#039;re referring to with his name.  I wasn&#039;t saying there &lt;i&gt;aren&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; writers like him; I was saying that there ought to be &lt;i&gt;more&lt;/i&gt; like him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To B Dewhirst: I have heard of him, but I&#8217;m not sure what you&#8217;re referring to with his name.  I wasn&#8217;t saying there <i>aren&#8217;t</i> writers like him; I was saying that there ought to be <i>more</i> like him.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2008/07/07/a-different-kind-of-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-15398</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &quot;mundane&quot; is a bad epithet for a literary movement (I guess it must have been chosen for shock value -- ironic, right?). Even fiction that is approximately about the present, real world does not want to be mundane. 

The &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mundane_science_fiction&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wikipedia entry&lt;/a&gt; gives some (pretty reasonable-sounding) goals and principles for the Mundane movement. These of course describe much SF that was written before the rubric of Mundane SF was conceived. But when I think of a book like &lt;em&gt;Red Mars&lt;/em&gt; -- which complies with all the Mundane principles as described on Wikipedia -- &quot;mundane&quot; is the last word that comes to my mind. 

&quot;Mundane&quot; is a near-synonym for &quot;boring.&quot; I don&#039;t want that. Even if I&#039;m reading realistic that&#039;s near here in space and time, I want it to feel special. Duh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;mundane&#8221; is a bad epithet for a literary movement (I guess it must have been chosen for shock value &#8212; ironic, right?). Even fiction that is approximately about the present, real world does not want to be mundane. </p>
<p>The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mundane_science_fiction" rel="nofollow">wikipedia entry</a> gives some (pretty reasonable-sounding) goals and principles for the Mundane movement. These of course describe much SF that was written before the rubric of Mundane SF was conceived. But when I think of a book like <em>Red Mars</em> &#8212; which complies with all the Mundane principles as described on Wikipedia &#8212; &#8220;mundane&#8221; is the last word that comes to my mind. </p>
<p>&#8220;Mundane&#8221; is a near-synonym for &#8220;boring.&#8221; I don&#8217;t want that. Even if I&#8217;m reading realistic that&#8217;s near here in space and time, I want it to feel special. Duh!</p>
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		<title>By: B.Dewhirst</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2008/07/07/a-different-kind-of-science-fiction/comment-page-1/#comment-15397</link>
		<dc:creator>B.Dewhirst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 13:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... Apparently you&#039;ve never heard of Ken MacLeod...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; Apparently you&#8217;ve never heard of Ken MacLeod&#8230;</p>
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