Comments on: The truth about Somali pirates http://futurismic.com/2009/04/17/the-truth-about-somali-pirates/ Presenting the fact and fiction of tomorrow since 2001 Sat, 19 May 2012 23:03:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: saman http://futurismic.com/2009/04/17/the-truth-about-somali-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-31620 saman Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:12:53 +0000 http://futurismic.com/?p=7019#comment-31620 and sure Paul i would like to keep things civil and polite, thanks for pointing out and sure Paul i would like to keep things civil and polite, thanks for
pointing out

]]> By: saman http://futurismic.com/2009/04/17/the-truth-about-somali-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-31619 saman Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:05:25 +0000 http://futurismic.com/?p=7019#comment-31619 that wasnt an accusation, it was a reminder, cause Robert is talking about the "moral superiority of cultures" that do not endorse "kidnapping" over "cultures" that endorse it, these are exactly the kind of faulty thinking and opinions because of which it is possible to invent and sustain fictions such as the "war on terror" and kill over a million people for oil with impunity, to send more weapons and soldiers to Afghanistan to fight a war which is being funded by the heroin trade, the same heroin by the way that ends up in the streets of Europe and the US it is because of these seemingly respectable opinions which are in fact based on prejudice that the mainstream media can sell lies again and again, one day they will convince you that it is ok to go and bomb the shit out of Serbs because of the Bosnian and Kosovo muslims for whom Osama Bin Laden was working and the next day they will convince you that it is ok to think of attacking Iran because they hang gays regardless of the fact that USA's own intelligence agencies do not consider Iran a threat Robert said at one point that i am dangerous, no man, i am not dangerous prejudices are dangerous, it is dangerous not to recognize that humanbeings are the same everywhere, they have the same rights and responsibilities, that human rights cannot be protected by those who think that some humans are "more equal than others" that wasnt an accusation, it was a reminder, cause
Robert is talking about the “moral superiority of cultures” that do not
endorse “kidnapping” over “cultures” that endorse it, these are exactly
the kind of faulty thinking and opinions because of which it is possible
to invent and sustain fictions such as the “war on terror” and kill over a
million people for oil with impunity, to send more weapons and soldiers to
Afghanistan to fight a war which is being funded by the heroin trade, the
same heroin by the way that ends up in the streets of Europe and the US
it is because of these seemingly respectable opinions which are in fact
based on prejudice that the mainstream media can sell lies again and
again, one day they will convince you that it is ok to go and bomb the
shit out of Serbs because of the Bosnian and Kosovo muslims for whom
Osama Bin Laden was working and the next day they will convince you
that it is ok to think of attacking Iran because they hang gays regardless
of the fact that USA’s own intelligence agencies do not consider Iran
a threat
Robert said at one point that i am dangerous, no man, i am not dangerous
prejudices are dangerous, it is dangerous not to recognize that
humanbeings are the same everywhere, they have the same rights and
responsibilities, that human rights cannot be protected by those who
think that some humans are “more equal than others”

]]> By: Paul Raven http://futurismic.com/2009/04/17/the-truth-about-somali-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-31515 Paul Raven Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:01:41 +0000 http://futurismic.com/?p=7019#comment-31515 Saman, you clearly have some valid points to make, but by framing them in ad hominem digs you're actually making your arguments less powerful. Or to put it another way: accusing someone who doesn't agree with you of being a member of the KKK is to act in exactly the same sweepingly prejudicial manner that you're so opposed to. To be clear: this site welcomes debate, and I'm glad you're raising quoted items in support of your side of the story (though links to sources would be a great addition). But I would like to ask you to keep it civil and polite, please. Saman, you clearly have some valid points to make, but by framing them in ad hominem digs you’re actually making your arguments less powerful. Or to put it another way: accusing someone who doesn’t agree with you of being a member of the KKK is to act in exactly the same sweepingly prejudicial manner that you’re so opposed to.

To be clear: this site welcomes debate, and I’m glad you’re raising quoted items in support of your side of the story (though links to sources would be a great addition). But I would like to ask you to keep it civil and polite, please.

]]> By: saman http://futurismic.com/2009/04/17/the-truth-about-somali-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-31493 saman Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:36:01 +0000 http://futurismic.com/?p=7019#comment-31493 So put that in your pipe and smoke it Robert So put that in your pipe and smoke it Robert

]]> By: saman http://futurismic.com/2009/04/17/the-truth-about-somali-pirates/comment-page-1/#comment-31492 saman Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:31:36 +0000 http://futurismic.com/?p=7019#comment-31492 In a December 17, 2008 “Fact Sheet” entitled “United States Actions on Somalia Piracy,” the Bush State Department declared: The United States recognizes piracy is a symptom of the lack of stability, security, economic development, and rule of law on the ground. Addressing these deficits in Somalia. Therefore, the United States recognizes the need for the deployment of a United Nations peacekeeping operation. In a December 17, 2008 “Fact Sheet” entitled “United States Actions on Somalia Piracy,” the Bush State Department declared:
The United States recognizes piracy is a symptom of the lack of stability, security, economic development, and rule of law on the ground. Addressing these deficits in Somalia. Therefore, the United States recognizes the need for the deployment of a United Nations peacekeeping operation.

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