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	<title>Comments on: Neo-eugenics &#8211; the ethics of pre-natal screening</title>
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		<title>By: Theo</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2009/06/23/neo-eugenics-the-ethics-of-pre-natal-screening/comment-page-1/#comment-131660</link>
		<dc:creator>Theo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The matter is ultimately simple: all humans want to be happy, and happiness is measured in quality of life.

People should have free-will to decide what does this mean for them and their children - for children are (for good or bad) bound to their parents opinions. Any interference is unacceptable in a democratic country - even if it is from a religious perspective (and, then again, religion is just another set of beliefs, and we are free to believe).

I try to see this beyong taboo and prejudice. There is no point in bringing to life a kid with severe psychological disorders, or keeping alive someone in permanent coma. As a father, I would want my children to have the best genes as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The matter is ultimately simple: all humans want to be happy, and happiness is measured in quality of life.</p>
<p>People should have free-will to decide what does this mean for them and their children &#8211; for children are (for good or bad) bound to their parents opinions. Any interference is unacceptable in a democratic country &#8211; even if it is from a religious perspective (and, then again, religion is just another set of beliefs, and we are free to believe).</p>
<p>I try to see this beyong taboo and prejudice. There is no point in bringing to life a kid with severe psychological disorders, or keeping alive someone in permanent coma. As a father, I would want my children to have the best genes as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: EyeCeyE</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2009/06/23/neo-eugenics-the-ethics-of-pre-natal-screening/comment-page-1/#comment-66728</link>
		<dc:creator>EyeCeyE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to mkilory: why do you think quality of life is subjective?  Have you not read about the stories of comatose patients who&#039;s family have considered whether to pull the plug or not, having utilised new technology in the form of microchips in the brain itself, enabled the patient to respond to verbal questioning, when asked, the patient stated, &#039;i do NOT want to die.&#039;  My point is, that although you may perceive a life to have quality or not, it is purely subjective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to mkilory: why do you think quality of life is subjective?  Have you not read about the stories of comatose patients who&#8217;s family have considered whether to pull the plug or not, having utilised new technology in the form of microchips in the brain itself, enabled the patient to respond to verbal questioning, when asked, the patient stated, &#8216;i do NOT want to die.&#8217;  My point is, that although you may perceive a life to have quality or not, it is purely subjective.</p>
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		<title>By: mkilory</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2009/06/23/neo-eugenics-the-ethics-of-pre-natal-screening/comment-page-1/#comment-41925</link>
		<dc:creator>mkilory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 15:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apesofmath, why do you think quality of life is subjective?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apesofmath, why do you think quality of life is subjective?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which is why I tried to emphasise the point that everyone should be able to make their own choices, Apes, though I&#039;ll admit I could probably have done a better job of it. It should be a parent&#039;s right to choose whether to carry a Down&#039;s child to term, and no one else&#039;s. You might consider them selfish or immoral if they chose not to, but it&#039;s they who&#039;ll have to live with having done it (or not) for the rest of their lives.

But to turn your question back on you, is it prejudicial to people with disabilities to want to make disabilities less likely to occur? Is recognising that their condition causes difficulties that the rest of us are fortunate enough not to face in our day-to-day lives, and thinking that less people living under such unchosen restraints would be for a greater utilitarian good, inherently insulting to them? How is that different to providing wheelchairs or live-in care (or whatever else) to give them the best opportunities to enjoy their lives? These are genuine questions, by the way; ethics being what it is, the logic is clear to me, but I recognise that it works differently for others and I&#039;d be interested to understand your train of thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which is why I tried to emphasise the point that everyone should be able to make their own choices, Apes, though I&#8217;ll admit I could probably have done a better job of it. It should be a parent&#8217;s right to choose whether to carry a Down&#8217;s child to term, and no one else&#8217;s. You might consider them selfish or immoral if they chose not to, but it&#8217;s they who&#8217;ll have to live with having done it (or not) for the rest of their lives.</p>
<p>But to turn your question back on you, is it prejudicial to people with disabilities to want to make disabilities less likely to occur? Is recognising that their condition causes difficulties that the rest of us are fortunate enough not to face in our day-to-day lives, and thinking that less people living under such unchosen restraints would be for a greater utilitarian good, inherently insulting to them? How is that different to providing wheelchairs or live-in care (or whatever else) to give them the best opportunities to enjoy their lives? These are genuine questions, by the way; ethics being what it is, the logic is clear to me, but I recognise that it works differently for others and I&#8217;d be interested to understand your train of thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Apesofmath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apesofmath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If science isn’t for improving the quality of life of as many people as possible, then what is it for?&quot;

Do people with Down&#039;s Syndrome not have a high quality of life?  Isn&#039;t quality of life subjective?  By imposing your own qualifications for such a subjective thing onto others your crossing into the territory of cultural superiority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If science isn’t for improving the quality of life of as many people as possible, then what is it for?&#8221;</p>
<p>Do people with Down&#8217;s Syndrome not have a high quality of life?  Isn&#8217;t quality of life subjective?  By imposing your own qualifications for such a subjective thing onto others your crossing into the territory of cultural superiority.</p>
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