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	<title>Comments on: GM crops and the war on poverty</title>
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		<title>By: Evil Rocks</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2009/07/09/gm-crops-and-the-war-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-38296</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Rocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice if you&#039;d read my comments instead of merely parsing them for things to quote.

When I talk about sophisticated robots, I&#039;m talking about switching our food production over to nutrient cycling loops and solving the work problem with mechanized labor. Tightly-knit food cycles produce just as well as monocrops, and my position is that we should be investigating the potential of labor-intensive farming techniques instead of meddling with plant genetics.

I think our split is that you don&#039;t see anything wrong with monocrops and genetic engineering, and I say that we could build a less environmentally degrading food-production infrastructure without resorting to genetic engineering of plants for food.

I&#039;m all for genetically engineering plants in the name of material science, though. There are some interesting applications in that field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if you&#8217;d read my comments instead of merely parsing them for things to quote.</p>
<p>When I talk about sophisticated robots, I&#8217;m talking about switching our food production over to nutrient cycling loops and solving the work problem with mechanized labor. Tightly-knit food cycles produce just as well as monocrops, and my position is that we should be investigating the potential of labor-intensive farming techniques instead of meddling with plant genetics.</p>
<p>I think our split is that you don&#8217;t see anything wrong with monocrops and genetic engineering, and I say that we could build a less environmentally degrading food-production infrastructure without resorting to genetic engineering of plants for food.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for genetically engineering plants in the name of material science, though. There are some interesting applications in that field.</p>
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		<title>By: Denni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 11:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we&#039;re talking about different things here. I couldn&#039;t care less about large-scale agro business and their greedy schemes, but sadly they are the loudest and pushiest and have forever dirtied the reputation of GM crops.

The methods are very straightforward. These plants can be engineered in any college-level lab/greenhouse and grown by local farmers. &#039;Sophisticated robots&#039; are not needed. You&#039;re making it sound like a car factory ;)

In principle I&#039;m all for golden rice. Once the IP issues were resolved, the technique was used to modify local strains, thus potentially maintaining diversity. However, a more pressing issue may be to adapt crop species to cope with increasingly adverse conditions as a result of environmental degradation. It&#039;s sad that this is happening, but it&#039;s inevitable.

The most pressing issue is about making the technology available at the grass-roots level, or at least as close as we can get (i.e. local colleges and research centres), so that local scientists and farmers can adapt the crops they require for the region they are grown in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we&#8217;re talking about different things here. I couldn&#8217;t care less about large-scale agro business and their greedy schemes, but sadly they are the loudest and pushiest and have forever dirtied the reputation of GM crops.</p>
<p>The methods are very straightforward. These plants can be engineered in any college-level lab/greenhouse and grown by local farmers. &#8216;Sophisticated robots&#8217; are not needed. You&#8217;re making it sound like a car factory <img src='http://futurismic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>In principle I&#8217;m all for golden rice. Once the IP issues were resolved, the technique was used to modify local strains, thus potentially maintaining diversity. However, a more pressing issue may be to adapt crop species to cope with increasingly adverse conditions as a result of environmental degradation. It&#8217;s sad that this is happening, but it&#8217;s inevitable.</p>
<p>The most pressing issue is about making the technology available at the grass-roots level, or at least as close as we can get (i.e. local colleges and research centres), so that local scientists and farmers can adapt the crops they require for the region they are grown in.</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Rocks</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2009/07/09/gm-crops-and-the-war-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-38213</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Rocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is *only* monocrops. The reason we have to engage in genetic modification to increase our food supply is because we have hit diminishing returns on investment in monocrop-style food production and because engineered food-producing ecologies are too labor-intensive to make money without sophisticated robots. Imagine how much damage to the planet we could mitigate by not feeding our crops with synthetic fertilizers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is *only* monocrops. The reason we have to engage in genetic modification to increase our food supply is because we have hit diminishing returns on investment in monocrop-style food production and because engineered food-producing ecologies are too labor-intensive to make money without sophisticated robots. Imagine how much damage to the planet we could mitigate by not feeding our crops with synthetic fertilizers.</p>
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		<title>By: Denni</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2009/07/09/gm-crops-and-the-war-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-38188</link>
		<dc:creator>Denni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol!

The issue isn&#039;t necessary about monocrops. 

Consider the real benefits that could come from plants that have better salinity/draught resistance and a better balance of nutrients.

I think the technology has to move away from monopolies such as Monsanto and over to agricultural colleges who conduct research on local crops to benefit local communities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol!</p>
<p>The issue isn&#8217;t necessary about monocrops. </p>
<p>Consider the real benefits that could come from plants that have better salinity/draught resistance and a better balance of nutrients.</p>
<p>I think the technology has to move away from monopolies such as Monsanto and over to agricultural colleges who conduct research on local crops to benefit local communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Evil Rocks</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2009/07/09/gm-crops-and-the-war-on-poverty/comment-page-1/#comment-38128</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Rocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dispute your assertion that ignorant hippies are a bigger problem than relying on monocrops for food production on the basis that educating ignorant hippies will make the world less better than transferring away from monocrop food production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dispute your assertion that ignorant hippies are a bigger problem than relying on monocrops for food production on the basis that educating ignorant hippies will make the world less better than transferring away from monocrop food production.</p>
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