Comments on: Machine-making machines making more machine-making machines… http://futurismic.com/2009/10/29/machine-making-machines-making-more-machine-making-machines/ Presenting the fact and fiction of tomorrow since 2001 Sat, 19 May 2012 23:03:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Chris http://futurismic.com/2009/10/29/machine-making-machines-making-more-machine-making-machines/comment-page-1/#comment-52100 Chris Sat, 31 Oct 2009 08:10:34 +0000 http://futurismic.com/?p=9389#comment-52100 Khannea, It was built in 1966 and its name is "Mike". Paul, Isn't the self-replicating machine also the post scarcity machine (e.g. http://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked_-_Printcrime-A4.pdf)? Isn't that the dream machine we've all been waiting for? Khannea,
It was built in 1966 and its name is “Mike”.

Paul,
Isn’t the self-replicating machine also the post scarcity machine (e.g. http://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked_-_Printcrime-A4.pdf)? Isn’t that the dream machine we’ve all been waiting for?

]]> By: khannea http://futurismic.com/2009/10/29/machine-making-machines-making-more-machine-making-machines/comment-page-1/#comment-51909 khannea Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:04:20 +0000 http://futurismic.com/?p=9389#comment-51909 'and then all of a sudden you’ve got an anthill of mechanical critters that have learned to procreate, cooperate, and deceive. DOOM." Lets start with that idea and take it further... how about we create an infrastructure of anonymous micro-transactions - something like paypal. Then we program a neural net to maintain its anonimity, and pay humans (or other machines) for jobs performed. We give it no imperative other than survival and expansion. Implement a dozen or so servers worldwide as decentralized hardpoints, forget these exist and let it run, paying its own bills, and generating products or services and both furthering its moneymaking capacity, editing itself, pay for utilities and new parts and rent. It can work via spamware, or it might hire patternrecognition talks only a human can do. It might eventually come to negotiate with other botnets, or negotiate transactions with spammers or mobsters. And yes we give it not just access to programming tools, but we also let it experiment with highly lateral-cognition microform robotics. Simple plastic scuttering things initially, but it experiments and will evolve better types. Anyone who reads this - in what year can such a thing survive. In what year can it improve itself. I am not talking intelligence - just instinct, for lack of a better term. Emergent instinct. Plus, in both these years, what will this project cost? ‘and then all of a sudden you’ve got an anthill of mechanical critters that have learned to procreate, cooperate, and deceive. DOOM.”

Lets start with that idea and take it further… how about we create an infrastructure of anonymous micro-transactions – something like paypal. Then we program a neural net to maintain its anonimity, and pay humans (or other machines) for jobs performed. We give it no imperative other than survival and expansion. Implement a dozen or so servers worldwide as decentralized hardpoints, forget these exist and let it run, paying its own bills, and generating products or services and both furthering its moneymaking capacity, editing itself, pay for utilities and new parts and rent. It can work via spamware, or it might hire patternrecognition talks only a human can do. It might eventually come to negotiate with other botnets, or negotiate transactions with spammers or mobsters. And yes we give it not just access to programming tools, but we also let it experiment with highly lateral-cognition microform robotics. Simple plastic scuttering things initially, but it experiments and will evolve better types.

Anyone who reads this – in what year can such a thing survive. In what year can it improve itself. I am not talking intelligence – just instinct, for lack of a better term. Emergent instinct.

Plus, in both these years, what will this project cost?

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