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	<title>Comments on: Sucking rats: Tarkus by Emerson, Lake and Palmer</title>
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		<title>By: Rob T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 23:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here you are, making irrelevant remarks (Who cares how old the thread is? I just now happened to find it while searching for something else, and left a quick comment), and mischaracterizing the tone of others&#039; remarks (e.g., complete tone-deafness to my irony). *shrugs*

As for prog fans&#039; having a sense of humor about prog, they do--as I mentioned, they just don&#039;t happen to find this bit of puerile vulgarity particularly amusing. This strip, on the other hand, is pretty funny:

http://freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/tarkus1.jpg.

So is this:

http://www.vintageprog.com/index.htm.

The Lego Tarkus is a riot:

http://camelletgo.tumblr.com/post/72782618/lego-tarkus

There have been one or two pretty funny Tarkus battlebots constructed over the years, too, but I can&#039;t find any good images online right now.

And frankly, I&#039;d like for you to find an ELP fan who didn&#039;t get a laugh out of the Tarkus which appeared at some of ELP&#039;s 1972 concerts and shot foam at the audience:

http://www.keithemerson.com/images/EmoArchives/ElpDundee1972-Tarkus.jpg

Anyway, sorry to upend your misplaced sense of superiority. I am sure, though, that I couldn&#039;t reverse your misperceptions if I were a combination of Bruce, Carlin, and Monty Python. So, signing off, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here you are, making irrelevant remarks (Who cares how old the thread is? I just now happened to find it while searching for something else, and left a quick comment), and mischaracterizing the tone of others&#8217; remarks (e.g., complete tone-deafness to my irony). *shrugs*</p>
<p>As for prog fans&#8217; having a sense of humor about prog, they do&#8211;as I mentioned, they just don&#8217;t happen to find this bit of puerile vulgarity particularly amusing. This strip, on the other hand, is pretty funny:</p>
<p><a href="http://freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/tarkus1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://freakytrigger.co.uk/pictures/tarkus1.jpg</a>.</p>
<p>So is this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vintageprog.com/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.vintageprog.com/index.htm</a>.</p>
<p>The Lego Tarkus is a riot:</p>
<p><a href="http://camelletgo.tumblr.com/post/72782618/lego-tarkus" rel="nofollow">http://camelletgo.tumblr.com/post/72782618/lego-tarkus</a></p>
<p>There have been one or two pretty funny Tarkus battlebots constructed over the years, too, but I can&#8217;t find any good images online right now.</p>
<p>And frankly, I&#8217;d like for you to find an ELP fan who didn&#8217;t get a laugh out of the Tarkus which appeared at some of ELP&#8217;s 1972 concerts and shot foam at the audience:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.keithemerson.com/images/EmoArchives/ElpDundee1972-Tarkus.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.keithemerson.com/images/EmoArchives/ElpDundee1972-Tarkus.jpg</a></p>
<p>Anyway, sorry to upend your misplaced sense of superiority. I am sure, though, that I couldn&#8217;t reverse your misperceptions if I were a combination of Bruce, Carlin, and Monty Python. So, signing off, now.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yet here you are, taking umbrage to the light-hearted ribbing of a band long gone, in a post nearly two and a half years old, in exactly the aggrieved paternal tone used by almost every other commenter above... *shrug*

You wanna generalise about me on the basis of what I do, go right ahead. Science fiction&#039;s had a long time to get used to people taking the piss out of it. Give it another decade, maybe prog&#039;ll catch up. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet here you are, taking umbrage to the light-hearted ribbing of a band long gone, in a post nearly two and a half years old, in exactly the aggrieved paternal tone used by almost every other commenter above&#8230; *shrug*</p>
<p>You wanna generalise about me on the basis of what I do, go right ahead. Science fiction&#8217;s had a long time to get used to people taking the piss out of it. Give it another decade, maybe prog&#8217;ll catch up. <img src='http://futurismic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob T,</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob T,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So much for the old cliche about prog fans being humourless nerds, eh?&quot;

The assumption here is that the &quot;Tarkus&quot; piece is actually funny, and therefore if ELP fans don&#039;t agree, then prog fans in general are humorless. Since Paul likes to generalize about the personal qualities of progressive rock listeners on the basis of a highly limited sample, perhaps it&#039;s also fair game to generalize about the logical and analytical abilities, or lack thereof, of sci-fi bloggers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So much for the old cliche about prog fans being humourless nerds, eh?&#8221;</p>
<p>The assumption here is that the &#8220;Tarkus&#8221; piece is actually funny, and therefore if ELP fans don&#8217;t agree, then prog fans in general are humorless. Since Paul likes to generalize about the personal qualities of progressive rock listeners on the basis of a highly limited sample, perhaps it&#8217;s also fair game to generalize about the logical and analytical abilities, or lack thereof, of sci-fi bloggers.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW some of you guys get real riled up, hey it&#039;s just rock and roll not the word of God! Quite funny really his review. The Weevill pictures etc.
I suppose I may be accused of having a strange sense of humor though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW some of you guys get real riled up, hey it&#8217;s just rock and roll not the word of God! Quite funny really his review. The Weevill pictures etc.<br />
I suppose I may be accused of having a strange sense of humor though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Heaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Heaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2011 18:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well well well, After i had revisited ELP after finding the videos on Youtube i &quot;stumbled upon&quot; this site as i was &quot;looking into&quot; the ELP album &quot;Tarkus&quot; and any meanings it may have. (before i proceed further, let me apologize in advance for my sentence structure and punctuation, spell check does not help that and i am an underachieving product of public education). I read these posts and i have an observation, for what its worth. First, let me comment that, from my perspective, it would be a CRIME if we didn&#039;t have Youtube to see and hear the events of the recent past, not everyone has the money to &quot;purchase&quot; all the interesting music, video and books that are available in the world to &quot;expand their consciousness&quot; (maybe their is justice in the universe, after all we do have it, which is whole other subject, excuse the detour) It is interesting that this has evoked such &quot;emotion&quot; for an album/event so old. first on criticism, it does &quot;sound&quot; negative, however, we need criticism to &quot;hone&quot; our ideas, otherwise we may drift off into total unreality and error.(another subject) I encourage all to be open to criticism, you can learn from all sources, even ones that seem not to understand the subject at hand, maybe there is something to apply, (&quot;It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.&quot; ~Aristotle). Secondly i understand the importance of the &quot;positive&quot; &quot;encouraging&quot; remarks because, when something is praiseworthy , it may &quot;spark&quot; the interest of other people likewise , and they  &quot;look into it&quot; if someone detects something valuable &quot;in there&quot;. It would seem we need balance in everything. What i &quot;take&quot; from the music and visuals of ELP of this era is, &quot;the ORDER and CHAOS of life&quot; you cannot seem to get around it(&quot;Each of us has heaven and hell in him...&quot;— Oscar Wilde). i think therefore i am, oops i mean i think some of the early 70s ELP illustrates this very well if you listen to it, maybe i am way off base though, time will tell, if there is such a thing as time. stumbleupon.com user:Jimheaton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well well well, After i had revisited ELP after finding the videos on Youtube i &#8220;stumbled upon&#8221; this site as i was &#8220;looking into&#8221; the ELP album &#8220;Tarkus&#8221; and any meanings it may have. (before i proceed further, let me apologize in advance for my sentence structure and punctuation, spell check does not help that and i am an underachieving product of public education). I read these posts and i have an observation, for what its worth. First, let me comment that, from my perspective, it would be a CRIME if we didn&#8217;t have Youtube to see and hear the events of the recent past, not everyone has the money to &#8220;purchase&#8221; all the interesting music, video and books that are available in the world to &#8220;expand their consciousness&#8221; (maybe their is justice in the universe, after all we do have it, which is whole other subject, excuse the detour) It is interesting that this has evoked such &#8220;emotion&#8221; for an album/event so old. first on criticism, it does &#8220;sound&#8221; negative, however, we need criticism to &#8220;hone&#8221; our ideas, otherwise we may drift off into total unreality and error.(another subject) I encourage all to be open to criticism, you can learn from all sources, even ones that seem not to understand the subject at hand, maybe there is something to apply, (&#8220;It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.&#8221; ~Aristotle). Secondly i understand the importance of the &#8220;positive&#8221; &#8220;encouraging&#8221; remarks because, when something is praiseworthy , it may &#8220;spark&#8221; the interest of other people likewise , and they  &#8220;look into it&#8221; if someone detects something valuable &#8220;in there&#8221;. It would seem we need balance in everything. What i &#8220;take&#8221; from the music and visuals of ELP of this era is, &#8220;the ORDER and CHAOS of life&#8221; you cannot seem to get around it(&#8220;Each of us has heaven and hell in him&#8230;&#8221;— Oscar Wilde). i think therefore i am, oops i mean i think some of the early 70s ELP illustrates this very well if you listen to it, maybe i am way off base though, time will tell, if there is such a thing as time. stumbleupon.com user:Jimheaton</p>
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