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	<title>Comments on: Rushkoff on radical abundance and the economics of Web Cubed</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apesofmath. That&#039;s clearer, thanks.  Not sure I agree though: the plague was a Middle Ages issue (though it did, as I understand it, result in higher wages for peasants; and in things like the Peasant&#039;s Revolt).  The Renaissance boom -- the boom in innovation and, more to Rushkoff&#039;s point, in wealth -- had less to do with this, and more to do with the &#039;age of discovery&#039; opening up the world, bringing large quantites of materials and labour to bear on the West; combined with a less tangible intellectual freeing-up of possibilty (for a complex tangle of reasons) that enabled the leap forward in invention, new technologies etc. etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apesofmath. That&#8217;s clearer, thanks.  Not sure I agree though: the plague was a Middle Ages issue (though it did, as I understand it, result in higher wages for peasants; and in things like the Peasant&#8217;s Revolt).  The Renaissance boom &#8212; the boom in innovation and, more to Rushkoff&#8217;s point, in wealth &#8212; had less to do with this, and more to do with the &#8216;age of discovery&#8217; opening up the world, bringing large quantites of materials and labour to bear on the West; combined with a less tangible intellectual freeing-up of possibilty (for a complex tangle of reasons) that enabled the leap forward in invention, new technologies etc. etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Apesofmath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apesofmath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Rick

Before anyone starts with a &quot;the problem with idea X&quot; argument they should do a little research first.  Rushkoff&#039;s last book counters most of your points and in most cases completely demolishes them.

Rushkoff has been very clear that a shift to a decentralized currency system would have a devastating effect on elderly populations who depend on savings.  However, making this change won&#039;t come through a massive, instantaneous shift.  This is something that must be accomplished through small local DECENTRALIZED action.  It&#039;s more of a social problem than a policy one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Rick</p>
<p>Before anyone starts with a &#8220;the problem with idea X&#8221; argument they should do a little research first.  Rushkoff&#8217;s last book counters most of your points and in most cases completely demolishes them.</p>
<p>Rushkoff has been very clear that a shift to a decentralized currency system would have a devastating effect on elderly populations who depend on savings.  However, making this change won&#8217;t come through a massive, instantaneous shift.  This is something that must be accomplished through small local DECENTRALIZED action.  It&#8217;s more of a social problem than a policy one.</p>
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		<title>By: Apesofmath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apesofmath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:43:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*enclosure movement</description>
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		<title>By: Apesofmath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Apesofmath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Paul and Adam

I&#039;ve read a few of his books and what he said about the plague makes perfect sense, but it&#039;s just not explained fully in this 15 minute speech.  In the late middle ages people had devised local currencies that allowed the rise of the middle class and an abundance in the lower classes.  Populations increased and there was a reliance on this new localized economy.  There were also common lands that peasants could farm and sell the crops for local currencies.  When the monarchs banned localized currency these economic systems collapsed.  To make things worse monarchs sealed off the common lands (most notably the enclosure in England) in order to graze sheep for wool or raise other cash crops.  This devastated the middle and lower classes and there was a dramatic rise in the population of the &quot;wandering poor&quot;.  Large groups of wandering malnourished poor living in unsanitary conditions provided the perfect conditions for a plague.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Paul and Adam</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read a few of his books and what he said about the plague makes perfect sense, but it&#8217;s just not explained fully in this 15 minute speech.  In the late middle ages people had devised local currencies that allowed the rise of the middle class and an abundance in the lower classes.  Populations increased and there was a reliance on this new localized economy.  There were also common lands that peasants could farm and sell the crops for local currencies.  When the monarchs banned localized currency these economic systems collapsed.  To make things worse monarchs sealed off the common lands (most notably the enclosure in England) in order to graze sheep for wool or raise other cash crops.  This devastated the middle and lower classes and there was a dramatic rise in the population of the &#8220;wandering poor&#8221;.  Large groups of wandering malnourished poor living in unsanitary conditions provided the perfect conditions for a plague.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 12:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll look into the comments preview thing, Rick; thanks for the suggestion. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll look into the comments preview thing, Rick; thanks for the suggestion. <img src='http://futurismic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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