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	<title>Comments on: Amazon, ebooks and piracy &#8211; tipping points ahoy?</title>
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		<title>By: Adam Roberts</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2010/01/21/amazon-ebooks-and-piracy-tipping-points-ahoy/comment-page-1/#comment-69439</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 11:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charlie @5.  I take the force of that, of course.  But I&#039;d still say that a good deal of DRM/platform bickering is fighting over a small base of dedicated consumers of (eg) novels.  What we need to do, and what new platforms provide an opportunity to do, is to reach out to the much much larger group of people who don&#039;t read SFF books -- or perhaps any books.  They do like SF though (that Avatar has taken $1 billion dollars is evidence of that). And they &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; like SF, if they tried reading it.

Put it this way: we need to reach the guy I sat opposite on the train yesterday who spent the whole journey from Colchester to Liverpool Street playing Bejewelled 2 on his iPhone.  We need to put the idea in his head that he could have spent his time reading a Charlie Stross novel on his iPhone.  Had he done that he would have achieved his primary aim, for the time would have passed without tedium; but he would have done a lot more, in terms of entertaining himself, and stimulating his brain, and engaging his emotions and so on; and then in short order he would be seeking out all the other Charlie Stross titles, and not only filling dead time like commuting time with them, but actively rearranging his days so as to make more time for reading.  Bejewelled 2 cannot do this; but high-end content like good literature can.

It wouldn&#039;t have to be a Charlie Stross novel, of course.  It could be a China Mieville novel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie @5.  I take the force of that, of course.  But I&#8217;d still say that a good deal of DRM/platform bickering is fighting over a small base of dedicated consumers of (eg) novels.  What we need to do, and what new platforms provide an opportunity to do, is to reach out to the much much larger group of people who don&#8217;t read SFF books &#8212; or perhaps any books.  They do like SF though (that Avatar has taken $1 billion dollars is evidence of that). And they <i>would</i> like SF, if they tried reading it.</p>
<p>Put it this way: we need to reach the guy I sat opposite on the train yesterday who spent the whole journey from Colchester to Liverpool Street playing Bejewelled 2 on his iPhone.  We need to put the idea in his head that he could have spent his time reading a Charlie Stross novel on his iPhone.  Had he done that he would have achieved his primary aim, for the time would have passed without tedium; but he would have done a lot more, in terms of entertaining himself, and stimulating his brain, and engaging his emotions and so on; and then in short order he would be seeking out all the other Charlie Stross titles, and not only filling dead time like commuting time with them, but actively rearranging his days so as to make more time for reading.  Bejewelled 2 cannot do this; but high-end content like good literature can.</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t have to be a Charlie Stross novel, of course.  It could be a China Mieville novel.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Stross</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2010/01/21/amazon-ebooks-and-piracy-tipping-points-ahoy/comment-page-1/#comment-69321</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Stross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam @2: there &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; a zero-sum game in train to some extent; the issue is that there are only 168 hours in a week, and only 3600 seconds in each hour, in which to be entertained. 

In other words, the scarce currency is time, not money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam @2: there <b>is</b> a zero-sum game in train to some extent; the issue is that there are only 168 hours in a week, and only 3600 seconds in each hour, in which to be entertained. </p>
<p>In other words, the scarce currency is time, not money.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick H</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2010/01/21/amazon-ebooks-and-piracy-tipping-points-ahoy/comment-page-1/#comment-68920</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how this development will effect the sell-on in books? For most of my book buying life (most of my life, therefore!) I have gotten a large proportion of my books from libraries or second hand. 

Can you buy a secondhand ebook? Although we talk about the publishers&#039; losing monopoly over the content, the resale of books etc - where not a penny goes to publisher or artist - will become impossible. Can I get an ebook out of the library? This one might be a double edged sword, because libraries buy lots of books, of course. I imagine these numbers are quite dependable, and guaranteed sales like that are likely important to publishers. So, whatever gain is made from cutting off this competition  will be mitigatedby the loss of library sales.

Already, amazon sellers and ebay have decimated the second hand bookshops - there used to be half a dozen good ones in Greenwich, but only one remains. On the other hand, I guess there&#039;s more on Project Gutenberg than you could read in a lifetime, and it&#039;s all free!

Patrick H</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how this development will effect the sell-on in books? For most of my book buying life (most of my life, therefore!) I have gotten a large proportion of my books from libraries or second hand. </p>
<p>Can you buy a secondhand ebook? Although we talk about the publishers&#8217; losing monopoly over the content, the resale of books etc &#8211; where not a penny goes to publisher or artist &#8211; will become impossible. Can I get an ebook out of the library? This one might be a double edged sword, because libraries buy lots of books, of course. I imagine these numbers are quite dependable, and guaranteed sales like that are likely important to publishers. So, whatever gain is made from cutting off this competition  will be mitigatedby the loss of library sales.</p>
<p>Already, amazon sellers and ebay have decimated the second hand bookshops &#8211; there used to be half a dozen good ones in Greenwich, but only one remains. On the other hand, I guess there&#8217;s more on Project Gutenberg than you could read in a lifetime, and it&#8217;s all free!</p>
<p>Patrick H</p>
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		<title>By: Rick York</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2010/01/21/amazon-ebooks-and-piracy-tipping-points-ahoy/comment-page-1/#comment-68915</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick York</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

I recommend you take a look at Charles Stross&#039; post on his website:  http://www.accelerando.org/

The post is titled &quot;The Monetization Paradox (or why Google is not my friend)&quot;.  As is usual with Charlie, the post is thoughtful and full of insight.

There are already 162 comments on the post, most of which are ideas for monetizing an author&#039;s work.  Almost all, in one way or another, are models that take advantage of internet publishing.

I note in my own comment (either #100 or #101) to Charlie&#039;s post that one of the biggest problems with earning money for any type of publishing on the net is advertisers&#039; failure to properly value online advertisements.  That also goes for all kinds of publishing.

This will eventually all work out but, a great deal of damage will be done getting to that future.  Most of the damage will be irreparable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>I recommend you take a look at Charles Stross&#8217; post on his website:  <a href="http://www.accelerando.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.accelerando.org/</a></p>
<p>The post is titled &#8220;The Monetization Paradox (or why Google is not my friend)&#8221;.  As is usual with Charlie, the post is thoughtful and full of insight.</p>
<p>There are already 162 comments on the post, most of which are ideas for monetizing an author&#8217;s work.  Almost all, in one way or another, are models that take advantage of internet publishing.</p>
<p>I note in my own comment (either #100 or #101) to Charlie&#8217;s post that one of the biggest problems with earning money for any type of publishing on the net is advertisers&#8217; failure to properly value online advertisements.  That also goes for all kinds of publishing.</p>
<p>This will eventually all work out but, a great deal of damage will be done getting to that future.  Most of the damage will be irreparable.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Roberts</title>
		<link>http://futurismic.com/2010/01/21/amazon-ebooks-and-piracy-tipping-points-ahoy/comment-page-1/#comment-68884</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 17:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>V. interesting piece Paul. The only bit I&#039;d take exception to is: &#039;&lt;i&gt;if there’s [x] amount of money sloshing round in the economy that people are willing to spend on entertainment...&lt;/i&gt;&#039;  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s zero-sum like this.  The key to the game is bring more people into a wider sense of culture; e-platforms make that easier, not harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>V. interesting piece Paul. The only bit I&#8217;d take exception to is: &#8216;<i>if there’s [x] amount of money sloshing round in the economy that people are willing to spend on entertainment&#8230;</i>&#8216;  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s zero-sum like this.  The key to the game is bring more people into a wider sense of culture; e-platforms make that easier, not harder.</p>
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